Chinatown Landlord Compares Proposed Tax to Gang Extortion

David EngChinatown property owner David Eng speaks out against a proposed BID. (DNAinfo/Suzanne Ma)

By Suzanne Ma

DNAinfo Reporter/Producer

CHINATOWN — Gangs that once roamed the streets of Chinatown extorting local residents and workers for money have mostly been the talk of modern crime novels and history books.

But during a community meeting on Wednesday, one property owner likened the people hoping to implement a business improvement district in the area, to those who ran such secret societies known as tongs.

A business improvement district, commonly called a BID, would impose a yearly tax on property owners within a defined area and uses that money to make improvements on neighborhood streets.

"The tongs did the same thing in the 1960s," said David Eng, a third generation Chinese-American who owns three buildings in Chinatown. "If you didn't pay, they'd come after you. It's being done here and they are trying to legitimize it."

Eng said a BID will destroy small, family-owned businesses already struggling to pay rising rents and heavy city taxes.

Chinatown Clashes Over Plan to Establish Neighborhood BIDThe Chinatown BID steering committee met on Wednesday to present plans to the community. (DNAinfo/Suzanne Ma)

"We are being taxed literally up the wazoo," Eng said. "In the past year, under [Mayor Michael] Bloomberg, property taxes have gone up by 33 percent. We can't take anymore."

The proposed Chinatown BID, speaheaded by a group of local professionals, community organizers and property owners, would impose a yearly fee ranging from $200 to $5,000, depending on the size of the property.

The fees would mostly go toward keeping the neighborhood clean: street sweeping, garbage bagging, and the maintenance of lamp posts and lighting.

Currently, an organization known as the Chinatown Partnership already provides services that clean neighborhood streets. But it does not levy taxes on property owners; it operates on funding it received from the 9/11 Fund and the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation.

Now, as public money runs dry, some believe a BID is what's needed to keep the community clean and businesses alive. There's also fear that Chinatown will fall behind surrounding lucrative neighborhoods like Soho and TriBeCa, where there's been talk of establishing BIDS, too.

Chinatown Clashes Over Plan to Establish Neighborhood BIDA trash bin on Canal Street currently emptied by workers at the Chinatown Partnership. (DNAinfo/Suzanne Ma)

"In the midst of a bad economy, we need to get Chinatown out of a slump," said BID steering committee member Deborah Chan, who runs a legal practice in Chinatown.

"We ask you to put trust in us and believe that this is what's best for the community."

A BID would also would also serve as an official advocate for the neighborhood to deal with city agencies and the mayor, members of the steering committee argued.

Eng said most of the small property and business owners in the neighborhood oppose a BID, but that he and his colleagues were not notified of Wednesday's noon-hour meeting.

Only Eng and another property owner, Philip Grossman, expressed opposition to the BID during Wednesday's meeting.

Wellington Chen, executive director of the Chinatown Partnership, said all property owners should have received an invitation to Wednesday's meeting in the mail. He added that he's observed an "overwhelming" support for a BID.

Ultimately, the decision will be decided by a vote; 51 per cent of property owners must vote in favor of a BID in order to get one started.

"No one ever pointed a gun to your head and said 'you have to do this.' This is democracy at work," said Chen.

The proposed Chinatown district is bordered by Allen and Delancey in the North, Rutgers and Canal in the East, Madison, Pike and Catherine in the South, and Worth and Centre in the West.

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By Suzanne Ma, DNAinfo.com

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Do any of these comments matter if they are expressed by this anonymous person A. Lei? Is this anonymity what we can expect from this BID, I think so. So until A. Lei reveals himself - we can safely dismiss what this person has to say. There is no reason to quote from, believe in, or even read the rantings of an anonymous commenter. The FACTS will be revealed about this person and the Parternship's lies and inuendo soon enough from legitimate sources who are proud of their real names and not AFRAID to use them. - Jan Lee
Janccrc | May 26, 2010
A: In the opening letter of the NYC Business Improvement District Guide (“Manual” does not exist, so I’m assuming Jan Lee meant the “Guide”), Robert W. Walsh, NYC’s Commissioner is quoted saying “Mayor Bloomberg is a very strong supporter of Business Improvement Districts. In May 2002, the Mayor introduced several new initiatives to improve the effectiveness of NYC’s BIDs and strengthen their relationship with the City.” “Relationships” usually involve some level of interdependence. People or organizations in a relationship tend to influence each other, share their thoughts and feelings, and engage in activities together. Because of this interdependence, most things that change or impact one member of the relationship will have some level of impact on the other member. “Advocacy” by an individual or by an advocacy group normally aim to influence public-policy and resource allocation decisions within political, economic, and social systems and institutions. “Mayor Bloomberg introduced several new initiatives to improve the effectiveness of NYC’s BIDs and strengthen their relationship with the City.” Relationship as defined above is to influence each another. Advocacy is to influence public policy. Therefore, a relationship between the city and the BID, that is strongly supported by Mayor Bloomberg and Commissioner Robert Walsh is about “advocacy with the City Agencies”. I believe Jan Lee is incorrect about his statement that the BID cannot serve as an advocate for their community with city agencies. Mayor Bloomberg and Robert Walsh as quoted above would beg to differ. I would also have to mention that other BIDs, such as the DUMBO BID mentions advocacy as being part of their BID services in their About Us page. http://www.nyc.gov/html/sbs/downloads/pdf/bid_guide_complete.pdf http://www.dumbonyc.org This is in response to Jan Lee's comments, “I agree that one of the most disingenuous statements being put forth as justification for a BID is for it to "serve as an official advocate for the neighborhood to deal with City Agencies" - nothing could be farther from the truth. NYC’s Business Improvement District Manual does not allow for any mention of “political power” or “advocacy with City Agencies”.
A. Lei | May 8, 2010
A: Jan Lee is one person that has one perspective, who is the voice of the CCRC blog, he may have a knack at writing blogs and comments on newspaper articles quickly, but please don’t allow that to close your heart to something that could really be helpful to our community. Read more about the BID on the comment page of WSJ's article, Chinatown Faces a BID for Cleanliness.
A. Lei | May 8, 2010
A: SoHo BID, LES BID, and other BIDs have already expressed interested in taking parts of Chinatown and adding it to their BID. So if the Chinatown BID does not pass, then the Chinatown community will be paying “extortion money” as Jan Lee calls it, to SoHo or LES, who may not have the same priorities that a singular Chinatown BID may. Chinatown is a cultural capital, it deserves to have its own voice, and not be stuck paying “extortion” fees to other districts, so they can fund their own agendas, and most likely ignore Chinatown’s needs. Is that what you really want Jan? I suppose if you want the neighborhood to look like DUMBO or Battery Park or SoHo, I could understand why you wouldn’t want the Chinatown BID to pass. But don’t be so naïve. Even if you succeed in convincing the Chinatown community into paying assessments to a SoHo BID or LES BID, and not the CHINATOWN BID, SoHo and LES may not understand the neighborhood’s unique character and needs and will just use the money collected for their own agendas, ignoring Chinatown again. This is in response to Jan Lee's comments,“We should not seek out a BID to extort money from the community under the guise of advocacy and political clout while we already have that. I say that especially in the wake of the recent turn around of the 9/11 terror trials - a community grass roots effort coalition that HAD NO HELP FROM ANYONE on the Partnership Board and/or the BID advocates.”
A. Lei | May 8, 2010
A: This is curious, as the SOHO Bid is currently eyeing parts of Chinatown to include in their BID plans. Does Jan Lee have something to gain if Chinatown BID doesn’t go through? CCRC is comprised of residential complexes Chatham Green, Chatham Towers, Southbridge Towers… I’ve been to these complexes, and they have doormens, private security, private cleaning companies, parking lots, and elevators. I don’t think having an organization like CCRC is very representative of the majority of Chinatown that is comprised of walk-up buildings with no doorman, no private security, no contracted cleaning company dedicated to their building, it doesn’t seem quite fair. Calling 30 community members that represent the majority of Chinatown as ‘false advocates’ is wrong and selfish. CCRC has much to gain to build a relationship with SoHo and Battery Park, because with the amenities those buildings offer, they would fit perfectly in those neighborhoods. CCRC and SoHo and Battery Park’s interests may align, but I don’t think it’s fair to say that the majority of Chinatown can say the same. Are Jan Lee and CCRC’s gains to molding Chinatown into their singular vision really fair to the Chinatown community? This is in response to Jan Lee's comment, “To use "advocacy" and "political clout" as was said at the BID steering meeting I attended, as a reason to form a BID reaches a new low in trying to trick the Chinatown public into thinking that 1) they are powerless, 2) that these false-advocates currently in charge of the steering committee have any political clout or ambition -whereas: MANY Chinatown advocates such as myself and CCRC have done fabulously well in building bridges with neighboring Communities such as SoHo and Battery Park, while maintaining constant and long lasting relationships with all elected officials representing our area.”
A. Lei | May 8, 2010
A: According to your first paragraph, the BID wouldn’t have the power to advise in those matters, so thus should not have done anything. Anyways, this issue was very complicated as anyone can tell you, even Mayor Bloomberg, once a supporter of the terror trials, changed his mind publicly after recalculating the costs and consequences of holding it in Lower Manhattan. You can’t just arbitrarily use it to support your arguments. This is in reference to Jan Lee's comment, “Overwhelmingly this Chinatown BID group has been missing in action on virtually all Chinatown issues including the most recent 9/11 terror trials “push back” to get the trials relocated out of Chinatown. Not a single BID Steering committee member has been brave enough to speak out on behalf of the Chinatown community – not even the Chair of the Chinatown Chamber of Commerce – who, in a discussion on the matter suggested that “Chinatown will make money from this terror trial , it will not effect us at all, don’t worry about it”. With that kind of ignorance of potentially disastrous consequences facing the Chinatown business community power of any sort cannot be placed in the hands of those willing to do nothing, especially if they are perpetually funded by a BID.”
A. Lei | May 8, 2010
A: Who better to have an opinion, but someone who lives in the neighborhood and works in the neighborhood? I would think they could add a knowledge that city politicians may lack due to the insularity of being in politics and our esteemed Mayor and Commissioner believe so strongly in this that they passed initiatives “to strengthen the relationship between the BID and the City Agencies.” This is in reference to Jan Lee's comment, “That role is clearly defined with the office of City Council and numerous elected officials representing the Chinatown area, including a 50+ member community board. Quite simply put anyone sitting on a board of a B.I.D. , particularly this proposed BID, lacks the necessary experience and knowledge of important issues outside of cleaning streets and placement of wayfinding signage. To say otherwise is disingenuous and easily dismissed for lack of visibility of those claiming to be positioned to act as Chinatown’s liaisons and political advocates.”
A. Lei | May 8, 2010
Jan Lee said, “I agree that one of the most disingenuous statements being put forth as justification for a BID is for it to "serve as an official advocate for the neighborhood to deal with City Agencies" - nothing could be farther from the truth. NYC’s Business Improvement District Manual does not allow for any mention of “political power” or “advocacy with City Agencies”. A: In the opening letter of the NYC Business Improvement District Guide (“Manual” does not exist, so I’m assuming Jan Lee meant the “Guide”), Robert W. Walsh, NYC’s Commissioner is quoted saying “Mayor Bloomberg is a very strong supporter of Business Improvement Districts. In May 2002, the Mayor introduced several new initiatives to improve the effectiveness of NYC’s BIDs and strengthen their relationship with the City.” “Relationships” usually involve some level of interdependence. People or organizations in a relationship tend to influence each other, share their thoughts and feelings, and engage in activities together. Because of this interdependence, most things that change or impact one member of the relationship will have some level of impact on the other member. “Advocacy” by an individual or by an advocacy group normally aim to influence public-policy and resource allocation decisions within political, economic, and social systems and institutions. “Mayor Bloomberg introduced several new initiatives to improve the effectiveness of NYC’s BIDs and strengthen their relationship with the City.” Relationship as defined above is to influence each another. Advocacy is to influence public policy. Therefore, a relationship between the city and the BID, that is strongly supported by Mayor Bloomberg and Commissioner Robert Walsh is about “advocacy with the City Agencies”. I believe Jan Lee is incorrect about his statement that the BID cannot serve as an advocate for their community with city agencies. Mayor Bloomberg and Robert Walsh as quoted above would beg to differ. I would also have to mention that other BIDs, such as the DUMBO BID mentions advocacy as being part of their BID services in their About Us page. http://www.nyc.gov/html/sbs/downloads/pdf/bid_guide_complete.pdf http://www.dumbonyc.org
A. Lei | May 8, 2010
I would like to respond to Jan Lee's previous comment:
A. Lei | May 8, 2010
I agree that one of the most disingenuous statements being put forth as justification for a BID is for it to "serve as an official advocate for the neighborhood to deal with City Agencies" - nothing could be farther from the truth. NYC’s Business Improvement District Manual does not allow for any mention of “political power” or “advocacy with City Agencies”. That role is clearly defined with the office of City Council and numerous elected officials representing the Chinatown area, including a 50+ member community board. Quite simply put anyone sitting on a board of a B.I.D. , particularly this proposed BID, lacks the necessary experience and knowledge of important issues outside of cleaning streets and placement of wayfinding signage. To say otherwise is disingenuous and easily dismissed for lack of visibility of those claiming to be positioned to act as Chinatown’s liaisons and political advocates. Overwhelmingly this Chinatown BID group has been missing in action on virtually all Chinatown issues including the most recent 9/11 terror trials “push back” to get the trials relocated out of Chinatown. Not a single BID Steering committee member has been brave enough to speak out on behalf of the Chinatown community – not even the Chair of the Chinatown Chamber of Commerce – who, in a discussion on the matter suggested that “Chinatown will make money from this terror trial , it will not effect us at all, don’t worry about it”. With that kind of ignorance of potentially disastrous consequences facing the Chinatown business community power of any sort cannot be placed in the hands of those willing to do nothing, especially if they are perpetually funded by a BID. To use "advocacy" and "political clout" as was said at the BID steering meeting I attended, as a reason to form a BID reaches a new low in trying to trick the Chinatown public into thinking that 1) they are powerless, 2) that these false-advocates currently in charge of the steering committee have any political clout or ambition -whereas: MANY Chinatown advocates such as myself and CCRC have done fabulously well in building bridges with neighboring Communities such as SoHo and Battery Park, while maintaining constant and long lasting relationships with all elected officials representing our area. We should not seek out a BID to extort money from the community under the guise of advocacy and political clout while we already have that. I say that especially in the wake of the recent turn around of the 9/11 terror trials - a community grass roots effort coalition that HAD NO HELP FROM ANYONE on the Partnership Board and/or the BID advocates. Jan Lee
Janccrc | February 26, 2010
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